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Intar Medris
Federation of Elsinore
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Posted - 2013.02.07 10:12:00 -
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Get Idea lets alienate 2/3 of EVE's players, utterly destroy the economy, and make sure EVE dies in ball of fire. Yeah I like PVP, but come on. If you try to force people into it it won't turn out to well for CCP. I have have been out to Null/Low Sec and the economy sucks in both. Trade hubs don't really and the systems with the exception of a few are near empty.
I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen. |
Intar Medris
Federation of Elsinore
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Posted - 2013.02.07 11:30:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:Intar Medris wrote:Get Idea lets alienate 2/3 of EVE's players, utterly destroy the economy, and make sure EVE dies in ball of fire. Yeah I like PVP, but come on. If you try to force people into it it won't turn out to well for CCP. I have have been out to Null/Low Sec and the economy sucks in both. Trade hubs don't really and the systems with the exception of a few are near empty. It's not forcing anyone to do anything, but putting meaningful consequences (noticeably lower income) on their decision to live solely in highsec seems like an ok idea to me. The trade off (lower rewards for more safety) has to be balanced, right now it isn't.
Except one glaring ******* problem High sec is basically the life blood of EVE. Whether it is PVE, PVP, or Trading, and whatever else takes place in high sec. You think think it sucks now when it comes to finding what you need. Wait till every High sec industrialist, and trader quits. Risk vs Reward is the biggest lie about this game no matter CCP does. Not that CCP will listen to someone as freaking ******** as James315. Best way to kill EVE is to kill High Sec.
I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen. |
Intar Medris
Federation of Elsinore
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Posted - 2013.02.07 13:42:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Intar Medris wrote:Except one glaring ******* problem High sec is basically the life blood of EVE. And it shouldn't be. That is the problem. There is no incentive for people to leave highsec because the rewards & benefits are far too high. For balance, you either need to lose a large chunk of the benefits or the rewards.
Well moon goo would plenty reason enough to move out to null but the powers that be in every large SOV holder put it off limits to the average sheep. Null sec is similar to high sec, but the rats are a hell off a lot tougher along with no concord. Low sec from the POV of a miner just isn't worth the risk. Every good entry in low camped, it is next to impossible to get into a SOV holding Alliance if you are not 100% PVP only pilot. Since mining is only for carebears according to Goonswarm. If any imbalance exist it is because of the big players in EVE politics. If ypu want a perfect example of risk vs reward take a look at WHs. The income potential for taking the leap of faith that moving to a WH requires goes hand and hand with the risk. You Null Power Blocs want to see more people move out to Null or low sec start being a bit more welcoming. Otherwise STFU.
I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen. |
Intar Medris
Federation of Elsinore
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Posted - 2013.02.07 15:16:00 -
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One thing they could do is give Null Sec and low sec ores a serious buff. In theory you should make 40+ mil an hour mining ABC ores, but that isn't the case.
Spud is one of the worst ores in the game. Despite being a null only ore, it will net you less profit per hour then veldspar. Leave high sec ores as they are, but seriously boost the yield of low and Null sec ores too the point that they almost guarantee 50 mil an hour in low. 70-150 an hour in null. Tell me that wouldn't lead to miners leaving high sec for low/null.
Ratters/Missioners for them triple the bounties on low/null rats. Remove insurance for low sec/null sec losses, and you an adequate ISK sink to offset the increased flow of the faucet
I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen. |
Intar Medris
Four Pillar Production
Headshot Gaming
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Posted - 2013.02.12 16:11:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:It really is kinda simple, in the end.
Miner A is ATK, in a tanky Skiff, aligned and mining away. Does he HAVE to pay the fee....I'd say no. We're likely not going to get him. The 10mil indulgence isn't "for" this person. This miner is playing with others and reacting to the game.
Miner B is in a failfit Retty with cargo expanders (I've seen it too much), tabbed out to youtube, sitting on the warp-in. Are we going to get him? Darn skippy we will. This miner is playing singleplayer in a MMOG.
Remarkably, Miner A tends to be the one who pays the permits. He "gets" EVE. Miner B is the one we see whinging on the forum about griefing and extortion and OMG it's not FAIR!
In all honesty, I'd rather a million Miner A's not paying the permit and playing the game with us, than one Miner B paying for a permit.
So given the fact that I have three toons, and I never leave the keyboard with my ships undocked. One in Hulk, one in an Orca, and one currently in a venture. Pretty much you will leave me alone. Right? I might always be aligned because most BMs I make are at ends of belts and I just move from one end to the other. I have lately also gone looking for trouble. I find the new flagging system fun. Pick up a suspect flag and hope some vigilante engages me. Not all miners are total carebears. Some of us get bored or drunk, and go out and find something to shoot.
I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen. |
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